Posts by Anna Marina

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2 Requests: 2019 October German Elders Manual--2017 Watchtower Scan of Elderly Sister!

by Atlantis in

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two requests we received for:.

https://docdro.id/gyjzpiz.

elderly sister looking in her refrigerator with almost nothing to eat, yet still contributes to contribution box.. .

Anna Marina

You were wise Sigfrid.

This sort of pressure can put strains on your health. When the KH of my ex-cong (I got throw out) was being rennovated, one of the brothers taking the lead was so harsh he was nick-name Pharaoh.

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2 Requests: 2019 October German Elders Manual--2017 Watchtower Scan of Elderly Sister!

by Atlantis in

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friends

two requests we received for:.

https://docdro.id/gyjzpiz.

elderly sister looking in her refrigerator with almost nothing to eat, yet still contributes to contribution box.. .

I may have mentioned this here before, but one very loyal sister put an extra 0 on a cheque by mistake. Money was immediately taken out of her account but actually she needed that money. A request was promptly made for the money to be returned. She's still waiting for the money. Meantime this one who is in her 90s has been feeling suicidal because of this. I believe it is well over a year since the money was taken. For a Christian, it would be reflex to return the money, or even to never have taken it without carefully checking whether it was in her best interests to donate such a large amount.

Day of future passed

Yes it is elder abuse. Love of money is the root of all evil and by actions like this the Watchtower show whose side they are really on.

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2 Requests: 2019 October German Elders Manual--2017 Watchtower Scan of Elderly Sister!

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

two requests we received for:.

https://docdro.id/gyjzpiz.

elderly sister looking in her refrigerator with almost nothing to eat, yet still contributes to contribution box.. .

Anna Marina

I remember that 2017 Watchtower. Here are missing speech bubbles for the bottom images.

Younger sister to the elderly one, "I'm sat here because I pulled the short straw."

Elder to the woman with wayward children, "they've gone. Now, rewrite your will and leave it all the to the Society."

Elderly woman putting money in box, "this is the last time I do this, it doesn't feel right."

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"Get Over It!"

by The Bethelite in

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this is what my children tell me... get over the whole jehovah's witness thing!

yes, they tell me they have gotten over the whole thing and they tell me that and i need to also.

my exgirl friend who was raised as a jw also has said the same thing.. my children say they got over it, however they are quick to point out how messed up their lives are now because of no college education and other missed opportunities.

Anna Marina

The breach of trust is massive. I feel its a public safety issue which others need to know about. Why? So they have a chance to stay free and not be harmed by it. The Watchtower is not the only one that uses psychological/sociological/spin techniques to entrap others.

Ray Franz did what he could and although it took time for me to find him and others like him, I appreciate that someone somewhere was trying to reach out.

We all do what we can. The Bethelite - at least your children have been given a chance to think for themselves.

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Wausau Wisconsin Bans Throwing Of Any SNOWBALL!

by minimus in

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you can’t throw a snowball at a person as kids often do.

you can’t throw it in a park, at a building, anywhere.

comments please.

Anna Marina

You should see the way some people play musical chairs, looks like rugby to me. Should rugby be banned?

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I am a Watchtower survivor

by Sour Grapes in

i really like calling myself a watchtower survivor.

it is not demeaning to other people and is not a negative statement.

when a jdub sees that term it may make them think about why i would call myself a survivor.

Anna Marina

Brother Sour Grapes, where else can you go to get entertainment like this? Yes these very words were express from the platform at my ex-KH.

The brother was actually asking for donations and said that if you went to a football match, the ticket cost £20 (can't remember the figure he may have said £60). But coming to the Kingdom Hall was free but we should be generous in our donations because, "where else could you go for entertainment like this?"

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I am a Watchtower survivor

by Sour Grapes in

i really like calling myself a watchtower survivor.

it is not demeaning to other people and is not a negative statement.

when a jdub sees that term it may make them think about why i would call myself a survivor.

Anna Marina

No point expaining if meaning just gets babbled.

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I am a Watchtower survivor

by Sour Grapes in

i really like calling myself a watchtower survivor.

it is not demeaning to other people and is not a negative statement.

when a jdub sees that term it may make them think about why i would call myself a survivor.

Anna Marina

I can tell you why at least one elder remains in. It is because of the mathematics surrounding 1914. Although people can say, "oh Jerusalem didn't fall in 607 BCE." It doesn't dent the WTBS' mathematics. It just means who do you trust for your staring date and scripture interpretation? This bunch of people and their ideas or that bunch of people and their ideas?

Well whatever, WWI started in 1914. So it seems like a good bet for some. In particular this one elder, I am thinking of.

I suspect that other elders are like this too. I tried very hard to get two ex-maths teachers to examine the scriptures to see that the 3rd year of Jehoiakim's rulership was... the 3rd year of Jehoiakim's rulership. But nope, they wouldn't open the Bible and read Dan 1:1.

I think one of those ex-maths teachers (an elder, who is a dealer), had carefully examined the scriptures and maths. I say this because he tried to trip me up by saying I could not be certain the 3rd year was the 3rd year because of the question over another king's reign. I think he said Jehoahaz (or Jehoash - can't remember). But whatever he said, I was ready to go through it step-by-step with him but he refused.

The fact he mentioned Jehoahaz (or Jehoash) told me he knew something deep because there is an issue to do with one king that is difficult to iron out. BUT it was irrelevant to the scriptures and maths I was wanting to show him.

My confidence before him put him on the back foot. I only needed to get him to look at 7 scriptures and his mind would do the rest. He knew me well enough to know I wouldn't be that confident if I hadn't done diligent research. I wonder if he was frightened of seeing the arithmetic on which he had established his life fall. So instead of going though the 7 simple scriptures with me, he got out 2 bronze age spears and some old pears and tried to distract me. Told me they were delicious cooked in red wine (the pears not the spears). Apparently they came from the time of Nebuchadnezzar (the spears not the pears).

Say you've got some good ideas for new headship arrangements.

Anyway hope you can use what I've said to draw up a blue-print for your very own tank.

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I am a Watchtower survivor

by Sour Grapes in

i really like calling myself a watchtower survivor.

it is not demeaning to other people and is not a negative statement.

when a jdub sees that term it may make them think about why i would call myself a survivor.

Anna Marina

Hi Farqueue - no I wasn't joking. If Brother Sour Grapehad used a toilet brush approved by the elders, even if it was only 0.5cm long, he would have made Satan sad, however difficult it was for him to clean the toilet.

If you are in any doubt please watch this informative video:

2in Paint Brush Analogy - Debunked

No my little tank is not for sale.

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I am a Watchtower survivor

by Sour Grapes in

i really like calling myself a watchtower survivor.

it is not demeaning to other people and is not a negative statement.

when a jdub sees that term it may make them think about why i would call myself a survivor.

Anna Marina

Hi LongHairGal - it's a great tank. Bit like a complete suit of amor but that much more effective for apparently helpless ones like me. It really took them by surprise when I came at them, with my foot down. One of the highlights was turning up at the elders meeting - I knocked on the door and guess what, they wouldn't come to the door. Eventually, one came out and pretended there was no elders meeting going on. Unfortunately for him, his wife had just told me exactly what was going on, so I told him I knew all the elders were in there.Eventually a couple of elders were willing to come to the door for a few seconds to be personally handed my letter to them. One of those elders was the brother who enjoyed toilet cleaning. I suppose I was there 20 mins max. Had the front door closed in my face 6 times. Finally, as I protested my innocence to this brother, he said, "can we leave it there Anna."

Farqueue - Even if Sour Grapes did get a brush, he might not have been given the right size brush. And complaining about brush size is not theocratic. There have been videos made on such matters.